Katy Perry, she who kissed a girl and liked it, the one with the sparkler bra, was born into religion. Both of her parents were evangelical Christian pastors, and according to an interview with Vogue, education wasn’t high on their list of priorities for their daughter. She claims her education started in her 20s, and the article claims that she had to ask what “nimble” and “monosyllabic” meant throughout the course of the interview. She was, however, raised to fear Madonna and Marilyn Manson, whose concerts she says she picketed as a youth.

“Amy Grant was our Madonna. We knew about Madonna and Marilyn Manson in my family because we picketed their concerts.” At a Manson concert in Santa Barbara, she handed out pamphlets titled How to Find God. She ended up going in to watch the performance with her youth pastor and, to her surprise, found it “really interesting and weird—I got it. But my house was church on Sunday morning, church on Sunday night, church on Wednesday evening; you don’t celebrate Halloween; Jesus gives you your Christmas presents; we watch Bill O’Reilly on TV. That was my whole childhood and youth and early teens. I still have conditioned layers dropping off of me by the day.”

So the next time you’re at a metal show and you see Christian protesters telling you to find the lord, maybe you should buy them a ticket and tell them to ditch their parents – it could be the next Katy Perry.