Otep Shamaya was a guest on the most recent episode of Jamey Jasta’s podcast The Jasta Show. The podcast went into detail about her feelings towards activism, homophobia, politics and her hatred for the Butcher Babies, especially co-lead singer Heidi Shepherd. At first, Otep held back (slightly) by not revealing names (at around – 1:11:00):

“There’s a band that’s headed… It’s a little tiny band that’s fronted by a couple of fucking moronic bimbos that… One of ’em, if I see her I’m going to give her the option of like ‘do you want your jaw broken or your ribs broken? Just let me know which your sugar daddy can fix easier.’”

It seemed as though Otep was under the impression that she shouldn’t be naming names. However, when Jasta asked her who the band was, she opened up about them even more:

“It’s the Butcher Babies, I hate them, I hate those motherfuckers. Heidi can fucking suck a fart out of my ass.”

Jasta attempted to shed some peace saying how Heidi is, “such a nice girl.”

Otep blatantly disagreed, responding:

“Fuck that bitch man, she called me a cunt on YouTube. I was nice to them. I took them out as my direct support and they weren’t even signed—I did that as a favor. The reason why they got so mad at me was ’cause I wouldn’t hang out and do blow with them after the show. I wouldn’t come and do cocaine. I don’t do drugs. I don’t do drugs… I’m not sober because I had a problem, I just don’t like drugs, I don’t like the way they make me feel. I don’t drink because I just don’t really like the way it makes me feel. I’ll have the occasional cocktail if it’s celebratory. But they got so mad that I wouldn’t fucking hang out and do drugs with them and party with them every night. I’m like ‘dude I got a show tomorrow, you guys should be paying attention too cause you sound like fucking shit, every night. You look like shit. You should be taking care, you should maybe drink some apple juice or something, take care of yourself.’ That’s their gig though. Then it turns out that she’s got some fucking, like grandpa, lawyer – something, some high powered lawyer in Los Angeles who pays for all her plastic surgery and shit like that. “

Jasta seemed a bit stunned to hear Otep’s bluntness, trying to say that the lawyer thing was alleged. Shamaya denied that it was an allegation, continuing:

“I think I would want to destroy everything about her (Heidi). Honestly, they wrote a song about me called ‘Dead Poet’ all this crazy shit… Because I didn’t know anything about it either, it wasn’t until they started talking shit about me on YouTube. I was like ‘what?’ I really thought I was nice to them. I gave them… I shared dressing rooms with them – stuff that like a lot of headliners don’t do.

A lot of headliners treat their opening acts like dirt. I try to set the example, like, one day you’re gonna be a headliner, be nice to your opening acts. I thought I was being real nice to them but then apparently they were just like mouthing, mouthing, mouthing, talking shit, calling me a cunt and all this stuff – like it’s not the first time I’ve been called a cunt; but I feel like when you’ve been nice to somebody and then they just turn around and – I don’t know if she was just trying to start beef so they get more attention or whatever, I don’t know. You’re the first person I’ve ever really told about it outside of my private circles.

I saw her at ‘Knotfest‘, ’cause we played ‘Knotfest‘. I saw her at ‘Knotfest‘ and I was like ‘Yo Heidi, I’m right here’ and she just like ran away as fast as she could. She don’t want this bro, like fucking throwing a tiger a piece of meat.”

It seems Otep has a lot more haste towards the group but, Jasta changed the subject to not run out of time. Otep surprised us with her brutal honestly. Hopefully, we will hear an update soon.

Check out the full podcast below:

Do you think “Dead Poet” was written about Otep? Have a listen for yourself:

“You’re dead inside

With no regret

When the lights go down

You’re standing alone

Your dead inside

And there’s no end

Left with nothing here

But your crown of thorns

 

Each scar has a story where

They came from no one knows

Fabricating the past

Blow by blow

Where’s the sense of reason

When does her run end

Cause when the lights go down

She’s cold and dead”